There are many gaming chairs on the market and I work with a lot of folks that have purchased one recently. Being an active gamer myself, I want to be comfortable for hours-long sessions, so spending a good amount on a solid gaming chair is a pretty good investment.
I was surprised at the prices EWin is selling this Racing gaming chair. Compared to some of their competitors, the prices are really competitive. So, do they stand up to the more expensive offerings?
Ewin sent me a Calling series chair in red and black. The chair came in a setup that was easy to put together. In fact, the instructions included directions that didn’t need to be followed because some steps were already done.
Putting the chair together took about 20 minutes. First I connected the back, which already had the lumbar support and head pillow attached, to the seat with two bolts on each side. After attaching the side panels to hide the bolts, I screwed in the base that held the height adjustment and leaning tension dial. Putting in the wheels on the five star base, the hydraulic piston was put into place and then the seat on top. That was pretty much it. Pretty simple, I must say.
Covered in bicast leather or polyurethane, the Calling Series has a nice soft leather feel to it, but can get a little warm when sitting for a while. I put the chair in my basement office, which is cool throughout the year, so I didn’t feel it as much. But after about 20 minutes, the seat did seem to retain some heat. It is reminiscent of my memory foam mattress, but it really didn’t bother me too much sitting in it for long periods. Just know you’ll probably feel the warmth if you pay close attention.
The seat is built on a steel frame so it’s made to take a lot of weight and punishment. On top of the frame is a very solid high-density foam that’s not too firm. The side of the seat area flows up so it feels like it’s hugging your legs. The same concave shape applies to the back of the seat as well. As the name implies, the shape is modeled after car racing seats.
Each arm of the Calling series has vertically adjustable armrests. Just hold down a button and you can slide it up and down. The top is concave as well, so it fits your arms nicely when you rest on them. I do wish they were padded though.
The back of the chair can tilt from 85 to 155 degrees and anything in between. There’s a very nice strong spring loaded handle that will unlock the chair to tilt when you pull it up. At its most extreme position, you are almost laying flat, so if you feel like taking a nap in the chair, feel free to lean it all the way back and snooze away.
There are two pillows in the back to aid in comfort. One is the lumbar support and it’s held on by two straps. This allows you the ability to move it up and down so you can position it wherever is most comfortable. I really like this compared to my office chair with its static lumbar support as some days I like it a little higher or lower. With the EWin Racing Calling chair, I can adjust it to my preference just by sliding it up or down by hand. It does a good job staying in place and once you lean back, it really doesn’t go anywhere from the pressure of your body weight.
At the top of the back is a pillow for your head. With the chair at close to 90 degrees, I was able to rest the base of my head on the pillow where it provided some great support. I have never had a chair with a neck pillow and now I see why it’s really nice to have one. The neck pillow on the Calling seat can adjust slightly up and down as it is also attached with a strap. If you don’t want to use it, just take it off by unclipping it. It’s that simple.
Height adjustment is done like most other chairs as you pull a level up, allowing you to adjust the gas lift piston. Oh, that piston is rated for 330 lbs., so the chair can support a good deal of weight. I’ve seen a few chairs support in the 200 lb. range, so it’s nice to see the Ewin Racing use a piston that’s rated for more support.
The base features a five-star caster arrangement that’s pretty normal for most chairs. Each wheel looks like a small racing wheel with its hubcap light design, which is a nice little touch. They roll pretty smoothly and rotate without any issue.
I’m 5’7″ and weigh about 165 lbs., just to give you a frame of reference. So how does the EWin Calling gaming chair compare to my nice office chair I bought a few months ago? Let’s just say I’ve given up sitting in that one and am now using the EWin chair as my primary seat of choice. Sitting in it for some long gaming sessions, I never felt fatigued or uncomfortable, with the lumbar support making sure I set up straight and the neck pillow giving me a good support for my head. I liked how the seat felt with semi-firm foam underneath me. It really is a fine chair to sit in for gaming or working.
You can grab the EWin Racing Calling Series chair for $259 and you can purchase them from their website which features more in their line of office gaming chairs. The price really sets this chair apart as well, as you get a lot that costs less than the competition. And to make it even more attractive, use the code NEXUS and you’ll get an additional 10% off. While I didn’t really know much about the EWin Racing chair before, I’m impressed with what they sent and would recommend them as a brand to look out for if you are searching for a good gaming chair.
It’s a solidly built chair at a good price. While light on features, the price makes it a good buy and it’s very comfortable.
As someone who sits at an office desk all day long and sometimes night long, I know the importance of using a good chair. Sitting in subpar chairs can really tear your back up once you pull yourself away from your game or work. With that said, about two months ago, I started having some terrible problems with my back. I’m still not sure why there was a sudden onset of problems but suddenly – there it was — a horrible tightness in the middle of my back. It seemed as though no matter how I sat or moved around, I couldn’t get comfortable.
A few years ago, I had invested in an ergonomic chair that I thought might last me for many years to come. As it turns out, the chair was exacerbating the back problem I now have. I’m not sure that it was the cause, but it wasn’t helping. That’s when I started looking into a new office solution for my aching back. I decided that looking closely at the gaming chair options that are available would be a good plan since they are made for long-term use. That’s when I found the Flash XL Gaming Chair from EWIN and I fell in love.
The Flash XL Gaming Chair has some great features to it. For starters, it’s built on a durable steel frame and is supported by a 120MM Class-4 Gas Lift as well as a metal 5-star wheelbase. The cushioning is made from cold molding foam (high-density memory foam). With it being an ‘XL’ size chair, it can support up to 330 pounds from its users. When you sit in it you feel the difference, between the high-quality foam and lesser quality chair stuffing.
The Flash XL Gaming Chair has a lot of adjustments available that make it possible for you to have the just right feeling for your needs.
4D Adjustable Armrests
Surface covered with polyurethane for durability and comfort
Front/Back/Left/Right sliding functions
Adjustable Height: Seat will raise and lower with the lever on the side.
Back Recliner: Chair will recline between 85-155 degrees.
Tilt & Lock Mechanism: The seat and back will tilt and lock into various positions. It’s installed with safety and a Class-4 gas lift piston.
When I first received my chair I was bouncing off the wall to get it set up. The chair arrived in a very large box with the pieces of the chair individually wrapped up and packaged carefully so as not to damage them. There were major pieces of the chair pre-assembled, but the back and seat needed to be attached and then mounted to the wheeled base. All in all, assembly only took about 30 minutes. You are provided all the necessary tools for assembly and it comes together quite easily. I was a little concerned when I found a tear in the side of the back, but as it turns out, that was an opening for a structural screw to go into from the side bracket.
Once the chair is assembled, it’s ready to use. There are no complicated instructions or special needs for the chair operation. You have the option to recline or move the armrests around as you like – they are fully articulating. The seat cushion is firm but very comfortable. The pillows are supportive and make a real difference if you are sitting for long periods of time. I have been very impressed by the wheels. I know that sounds a little odd given the fact that it’s a gaming chair, but usually, the first things that break on me are the wheels of a chair. They are large, wide and roll around effortlessly on the carpet.
I was met with a bit of a disappointment after getting my chair assembled due to one of the arms weld snapping off. The arm had basically fallen off. This was a big let down but as is the case with any product, you will find that not everything will be perfect. I reached out to EWIN support and they apologized for the unfortunate defect in the arm weld and offered to send out a brand new arm. They promptly sent a replacement and three days later, I had a new arm in-hand and my chair was as good as new.
The XL size chair is made for taller people and can hold more weight than the average gaming chair. The chair has a variety of adjustments that can suit even the pickiest person – like me. The included pillows lumbar and head you would think that they might be a gimmick but I assure you they are not. I use these pillows to adjust myself in so many ways.
I have had the opportunity to check out lots of cool chairs and gaming chairs over the years and the EWin Flash XL is just wonderful. I really enjoy the rocking ability that it has and have felt like I’ve been pretty much floating on clouds when using it. For anyone sitting long hours behind a desk no matter if you are gaming or doing office work, the EWin Flash XL will be a match made in heaven. Since I’ve had this chair, I’ve been able to sit comfortably for hours at a time and I’ve even noticed that my back problems are not as severe as there were before I started using this chair. It’s well-constructed, comfortable and it looks great!
E-Win’s Gaming Chairs are durable and quality built.
Video games can feel pretty immersive even without extra accessories, but the peripherals make it even more real. By adding things like steering wheels, rumbling controllers, and gaming chairs, you are really going to get into the game. These extras are great for fooling our senses.
Sure, VR is cool, but the technology isn’t quite good enough to make us completely lose ourselves. Plus, not everyone wants to wear a headset. So these accessories really get us in the game when we are playing console and PC based games.
Game in Luxury and Comfort
Ewin Racing Chair was founded in 2016 after being an OEM office chair manufacturer. Their goal is to put gamers deep in the game by offering quality designed gaming chairs that are ergonomic as well as healthy. They have a wide selection of geek thrones that double as office chairs, as well as accessories like tablet/phone stands that mount onto them. They are perfect for gamers because even though we love to play games for many hours at a time, many of us also have office work to do as well. And that work will be much improved sitting in one of these.
E-Win Gaming Chairs will improve your game and your life.
A Durable Gaming Chair and Office Chair in One
One of the best chairs that they offer in our opinion is the E-WIN Champion Series Ergonomic Computer Gaming Office Chair with Pillows. This model has a durable steel frame with high-density memory foam. It also features 4D adjustable armrests with front/back/left/right sliding functions, clockwise and counterclockwise rotations and vertical adjustments.
The material is top grain leather with perforation and diamond pattern stitching for maximum comfort and breathability. It also has height adjustment so that you can raise and lower the seat to your specific needs.
Sometimes you don’t want to be upright and they have you covered there too. The E-WIN Champion Series Ergonomic Computer Gaming Office Chair with Pillows also reclines. Just pull the lever up, lean back and select the perfect angle.
It has a 85-155 degree adjustment. Whether you are playing a more relaxing game or just watching some TV, you are going to be comfortable and completely chill.
You’ll be gaming like a king in any of the chairs that EWIN offers. They are sure to improve your game and your non-gaming life because they are so comfortable and well designed. Check out their selection and find a chair that’s right for you. It’s not often that you find chairs that improve both your work and play.
The EWin Flash XL gaming chair is a heavy-duty seat with a large base, designed for maximum room and comfort. It’s similar to the previous chair we reviewed from EWin, known as their “Calling” series, albeit much larger.
After using the roomy Flash XL chair for a few weeks, there are few occasions that I can say I’ve had a better seating experience. However, there’s a couple of design flaws that hold the seat back.
At a glance, the EWin Flash XL seat is very similar to the Calling series chair we reviewed a little while back. It has many of the same features, including 360-degree swivel, a 155-degree adjustable backrest angle, tilt control, height control, large wheels, and adjustable armrests. There are, however, some key differences.
The Flash XL chair is designed for larger and taller owners, providing up to 13.4 inches of lift for longer legs, and a wider 22.4-inch seat. Whether you’re a larger gamer or simply prefer something with more room, this could be the chair for you.
The Flash series also comes with “4D” adjustable armrests. Unlike the Calling chair we reviewed previously, which only allowed you to adjust the height of the armrests, the Flash chair lets you adjust the angle, the height, and the position of the armrests with hidden toggle switches. It’s a nice touch, but they’re a little tooadjustable. A simple knock can make the armrest float into a different position. It’s a minor gripe, but worth mentioning.
Like with the Calling chair, you can adjust the backrest angle and the tilt. Sling them backward for getting comfy and enjoying movies or VR, push them forwards to get focused on the action in a first-person shooter. The Flash XL gives you the power to customize your experience at will, and the levers are well placed and easy to shift, while ensuring the that every new position retains a solid feel.
The Flash XL also comes with an optional lumbar backrest and a neck pillow, which are adjustable with belt straps. The seat is gratuitously wrapped in high-quality PU leather, beneath thick, high-density memory foam and a robust metal frame. As someone pushing the weight limit of this chair, few products have felt this hard-wearing under load.
The Flash XL has the feature set on point for any self-respecting gaming chair, but how comfortable is it?
Comfort and quality
The Flash XL mirrors its Calling cousin with high-quality materials and design. I mentioned the metal framework that persists throughout the build, but also, the PU leather is bonded with heavy-duty stitching that simply won’t come apart easily. Unlike some other vendors I’ve seen, EWin doesn’t cheap-out on the stitching in places that aren’t readily visible either.
The seat is as comfortable as ever, with tons of room, side-cushions for extra support, and that winning lumbar backrest that I simply adore. The benefits of a lumbar backrest cannot be overstated, and even if you don’t buy this chair specifically, there are lumbar back rests available on Amazon that you can purchase to fit existing chairs. My back and shoulders hate me when I don’t have one at this point.
The gas lift provides an impressive 13.4 inches of floor clearance, which is ideal for taller gamers. If you have little legs like me, you can shrink all the way down to 9 inches, potentially useful if you want to put your feet up too.
You might think the PU leather could get clammy in summer, but it’s reasonably airy and extremely easy to clean if you spill coffee all over it (as I found out). There’s really nothing negative to say about the seat itself, it’s simply wonderful, but there are a couple of design elements that concern me.
For some reason, the chair is a little hard to maneuver when compared to the Calling EWin chair I reviewed previously. The chair is quite large, and a little front-heavy, because the central leg is further towards the back of the seat. As a result, when you want to shuffle forward, it’s hard to get any form of initial momentum, making the chair hard to move. It’s not a huge issue, but it seems like a construction oversight that prevents the seat from achieving true perfection.
Overall: the EWin Flash XL chair is awesome
A couple of minor gripes aside, this is the most comfortable chair I’ve used, particularly as someone currently on the larger side of the gamer persuasion. If you’re looking for a larger chair or something with a little more lift to suit your height, you have to take a look at the Flash XL.
It’s by no means cheap at around $430, but the metal frame, high-quality materials, and generously-cushioned seat design make this an incredibly comfortable seat that will last far, far longer than a quick-fix $100 solution. Your back will thank you, too.
Among the most comfy chairs out there.
Tons of adjustability.
Durable materials and design.
Chair feels front-heavy, making it hard to maneuver while seated.
In the beginning, there were gaming consoles, after which home PCs dominated until personal computers (PCs) became prevalent in the gaming field as well. The rapidly growing gaming industry has inevitably attracted the attention of a number of companies. We have seen many such companies evolve over the years; many blossom while others lose their focus and eventually fade away. The truth of the matter is that the competition in these IT-specific market segments is huge – companies that are not good enough inevitably face extinction.
There are several original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) – companies that actually have manufacturing capabilities and sell their products to other companies without production lines. Many OEMs have also entered the retail market somewhere along the way. Such entries can result in equivocal relationships that blur the boundaries between product designers, manufacturers, and vendors. However, such a turn does at times result in exceptional products. E-Win used to be an OEM. After years of manufacturing office chairs, it entered the gaming chair market with a great variety of gaming/office chairs for mostly the mainstream.
There are four lines: the Champion, Calling, Hero, and Flash series with its Normal and XL subcategories. Each of these includes at least six differing choices. Today, we have in our lab a gray-colored chair from the Flash Normal series (FLNB). This chair is equipped with a basic ergonomic feature set, and E-Win says it to offer comfort and safety over even longer periods of use. The steel frame and high-density, cold-molded memory foam can also hold a weight of up to 150 kg.
The aluminum five-star base, fair price, and E-Win’s years of experience in manufacturing chairs look promising. We will as per usual for our reviews make a point of thoroughly examining every aspect of this chair in order to properly convey its pros and cons. Click here to know more from video review.
Almost all the packages we receive lately have had it rough, which had them arrive damaged. As a result, we sometimes find damaged contents inside. Surprisingly, E-Win’s package arrived intact. While doing some online research on their official website, we discovered a page dedicated to their packaging, in which the whole process is illustrated with pictures, and each of these is followed by a short explanation in text.
The package is big and heavy; it takes at least two people to lug around safely.
E-Win’s logo is all around the package. There’s only a single hint of what’s inside, though.
All contents are well-protected, wrapped in plastic membrane.
The bundle includes the following:
• Chair’s backrest
• Chair’s aluminum base with both armrests pre-installed
• Hydraulic system cover/dust-cover shroud
• Neck- and lumbar-support pillows pre-installed
• Butterfly tilt/metal base frame, height adjustment mechanism
• Grade class 4 gas lift
• Soft-glide casters (5x)
• M8 Allen keys (2x)
• Side covers (2x)
• Mounting screws (3x)
• Screw covers (for the screws of the seat’s back-mount covers) (2x)
• User’s manual
• Pair of cotton gloves, size large
The grade class 4 gas lift is self-contained and inside a carton box. The caster wheels, Allen keys, mounting screws, side covers, screw covers, and cotton gloves are also inside a carton box. While a small detail, the inclusion of a pair of protective gloves was greatly appreciated since there have been times in the past were small accidents as we assembled everything have taken place.
However, a number of negatives caught our attention as well. The plastic material of the side and screw covers is not of the finest quality, and the dust cover is one of the thinnest we have ever seen.
Table of Acronyms
The following table goes over the material acronyms you will come across while searching for a gaming or office chair. Not only does this table go over what each acronym stands for, but the material traits of each entry are also detailed.
Material – Acronyms
Natural Leather is divided into different categories:
Full-Grain, Top-Grain, Bonded Leather, and Split Leather
Less wasteful because it is a by-product of the animal industry
Occasionally more durable than synthetic leather
Cruel to animals – unethical in the eyes of some
Production introduces chemicals to the environment
No one can be completely sure of the quality since “Genuine Leather” as a tag could also mean “not of the best quality, though real leather”
Polyvinyl Chloride (PVC) Leather
No animal cruelty
Fade and stain resistant
Occasionally easily torn
Produced with potentially carcinogenic chemicals
Polyurethane (PU) Leather
No animal cruelty
Fade and stain resistant
Occasionally easily torn
Produced with chemicals
The armrests and two cushions come pre-installed, which makes assembling this chair pretty straightforward and quick. However, the backrest was fairly heavy, and we aren’t that tall. Considering that we had to lift it in order to align it with the metal brackets on the seat’s base, an additional person was required. The caster wheels also took someone with stronger hands than mine.
Assembly starts with the installation of the caster wheels to the five-star base. We had to press the studs into the base firmly. The hydraulics also need to be put into the aluminum base before the dust-cover shroud is attached. We then unscrewed the four pre-mounted hex bolts at the bottom of the seat with the large hex key in order to place the butterfly tilt tray; mind the arrow that points towards the front. Next, the sitting area is attached to the chair’s hydraulics system.
With the backrest in place, we unscrewed the four hex bolts on each side with the small hex key that is included in the bundle. The backrest needs to be aligned with the seat’s metal brackets before the plastic side covers and two remaining screws are attached to the backrest. Also don’t forget to put the two screw covers over the plastic covers’ screws.
There are also two cuts among the holes for the hex bolts, on each side of the backrest. These cuts are definitely intentional, but we found no information on these anywhere. All together, we had to unscrew and screw in eight hex bolts.
We rummaged through the company’s website before taking a closer look at their chair. E-Win’s website looks well built and includes information about the entire creation process and how everything is packaged. Most of the used components are said to be of high quality, and E-Win is not afraid to show them. There is also a video that goes over the main differences that set E-Win’s chairs apart from those by other manufacturers.
At first, we were certain that the chair had arrived intact. Yet, we were unfortunately wrong, and as we glanced at the rear of the backrest, we made out two indentations that are most likely due to how the five-star base’s package had been positioning on top, which puts E-Win’s packaging concept at fault. Also, like with some other chairs we have evaluated in the past, there was that intense odor of the PU upholstery. Thankfully, it disappeared after a couple of hours.
Once the chair is assembled, it looks impressive overall. The Flash chair is definitely large enough to nicely welcome even heavy-boned gamers.
The PU upholstery feels smooth and soft and has a fine stitching to it, yet we did find some folded upholstery at the rear of the backrest. The gray and black color combination definitely is not the one we would have picked from E-Win’s plethora of available option, but the one that was to our liking was unfortunately out of stock, which had us settle for a compromise. The color of a chair is clearly subjective, and in the end, it is of small importance considering what matters the most; ergonomics, comfort, build quality, and, of course, price.
The cushioning of the seat immediately caught our eye. We were impressed by its volume. Once we took a seat, we found it to be spacious, and we were happy that the foam filing not only looked rich, but felt really comfy as well. The backrest is wide and feels sturdy. The side flaps point outward, and the backrest’s upper part hence also does not lead to any restrictions in terms of body type.
The armrests are padded and seem to be spongier than the ones we have come across thus far. The aluminum five-star base seems to be well-fabricated, and we thus assume that it will last for a while even if you put this chair through the ringer by using it for the better part of a day on a regular basis. Our first look shows that the Flash Normal chair is one of the most comfortable chairs we have tried out so far!
Am Overview of The Flash Chair Series
The Flash series is divided into two main categories: the Flash Normal and XL chairs. The two main differences between these two categories are the dimensions and color combinations. The Normal category consists of two sub-categories: the FLNB and FLNC with a total of six different color combinations. The XL category includes four sub-categories and has a total of eleven different color combinations.
A Closer Look
The backrest of our Flash chair is 55 cm (27.1 “) wide and 87 cm (34.3 “) long. Once you lay back on the backrest, how wide it is becomes apparent. You have the sense that it embraces your upper body without confiding you. It feels comfortable enough due its elastic bands and how thick the foam is (60 kg/m3). As such, even a person of 150 kg (330 lb) will not feel uncomfortable.
The backrest bears a heavy metal frame and is filled with cold-molded, high-density memory foam to make sure this chair is still comfortable after even hours of prolonged use. Additionally, the backrest is equipped with four elastic bands.
There is E-Win’s embroidered logo on the headrest with its white stitching, and once the neck-support pillow is attached, we find the same embroidered logo on it as well. We even found two small engraved logos on the rear of the backrest, at the bottom of each opening.
We also found a triangle in the middle of the backrest that starts in the lower section and goes up halfway. Two stripes that resemble horns appear on the sides of the backrest, and two more triangles appear underneath the openings for where the neck pillow’s strap is attached. The last two triangles are above the openings for these strap attachments.
The backrest’s reclining angle ranges from 85-155 degrees and is adjusted via a lever situated on the right side of the seat.
Due to the fact that the neck- and lumbar-support pillows are pre-attached, the backrest and seat’s base are folded, which creates something like a hump in the package. There were, as such, indentations on the rear of the backrest the five-star base had made, and they stuck around, after even weeks had gone by.
The armrests are 4D, padded, mushy, and covered in PU. They move to the front, back, left, and right with the use of three buttons. In other words, the armrests can be adjusted vertically and in a clockwise or counterclockwise rotation.
The Seat Base & Adjustments
The seat’s base has a depth of 57 cm (22.4 “) and is 54 cm (21.3 “) wide.
The chair’s height ranges from 24-32 cm (9.4-12.6 “) and can be adjusted with a lever on the right side of the chair, under the seat. There are English and Spanish instructions on the lever. The chair’s overall height from the ground up including the base is 119 cm (46.85 “), which is considered to be really high and, as such, great for tall people. While we usually find this lever to be awkwardly placed, this one is positioned well. A knob with which to adjust the tilt’s tension is also under the seat. The PU upholstery is matte, soft and 0.12 cm (0.047 “) thick, but has no open cells. The seat looks rather fluffy and is the second gaming chair with as much density foam we have reviewed. Due to the thickness of the cold memory foam, we found the seat’s base to be really comfortable.
A heavy steel frame out of metal guarantees that individuals of up to 150 kg (330 lb) have nothing to fear. The cushioning of the Flash chair is made out of a single piece of cold-molded memory foam. Like the backrest, the seat’s base is equipped with three individual elastic bands. The elastic webbing supports the foam and ensures comfort.
The edges on both sides of the seat are less pronounced towards the front, and users will, as such, not feel confined to the seat. Things are different towards the back of the seat, though. Here, the edges are fairly tall in order to keep your bottom attached to the seat, and the backrest makes sure your body posture is right. We did think that these raised edges would create a problem when it came to reaching for the levers on the right side of the chair, but such was not the case.
We couldn’t find a logo on the seat’s base, other than the one on the lumbar-support pillow. We found two very discreetly placed engraved logos on each side of the seat’s plastic bits, however. There is the gray cord that runs alongside the seat’s base and the flaps. A gray triangle also starts at the front and almost goes halfway up the seat.
We did find a flaw on one of the seat’s sides, though. There’s a dent on the right side that is most likely due to a fault with the factory’s assembly procedure.
Another flaw with our sample was that the right armrest can be raised a little higher (by about a centimeter) than the left one. This is not a major problem, though, since you are still able to adjust these to where both are level.
Hydraulics, Five-Star Base & The Caster Wheels
A class four metal gas lift of 12 cm (4.72 “) in height is responsible for all height adjustments, and it can hold a body weight of up to 150 kg (330 lb).
The aluminum five-star base has a matte powder-coated finish and is sturdy enough to support such a weight.
The 7.62 cm (3″) caster wheels are made out of polyurethane (PU). They are steady and roll along nicely on both a laminated floor and light-medium carpet. Thick, tall carpets will have almost all gaming and office chairs struggle. These caster wheels also aren’t noisy, and they remained quiet after even several weeks of use.
If we were able to, us gamers would quite probably be happy to sit with a controller in hand for 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year. Eating would be pushed to one side, and drinking to the other, as real life gave way to the virtual world and the joys that it brings.
But we’ve all been there and day long sessions need more than just a TV screen, console and controller. There needs to be comfort, and no matter how much you think your bed is the best place to lay whilst gaming, or the sofa is for lounging whilst you take the fight to the hardest Dark Souls boss, for the most intense gaming sessions you need a chair. A chair that has been designed with gaming in mind. The Ewin Flash Series Gaming chair in fact.
Ewin are relatively new kids on the block – only having decided to specialise in gaming chairs since 2016 – but they’ve already got a reputation for delivering cheap but quality products. And that is pretty much what they’ve done with the Ewin Flash Series of gaming chair.
Gaming is an expensive enough hobby as it is, with games and consoles quite happily taking up the bulk of any take home pay should you wish them to, but things get even more expensive when we take a look at the accessories that make our gaming sessions all the better. Headsets can roll into the hundreds and gaming chairs can go even higher. But Ewin are here to prove that not everything has to be super expensive to be good – and even though the white Flash gaming chair that Ewin have kindly provided looks great, it only comes in at £300. In a world motivated by squeezing every last drop from every loyal gamer, that must be commended.
Yes, I know that isn’t the cheapest price on the market, and you could quite easily pop down to your local games store and grab a considerably cheaper product. But would it be as comfortable as the Flash? I’d guess not and as far as bang for your buck goes, the Flash is right up there.
So what do we have? Well, visually Ewin have pulled one out of the bag with the white and black Flash. It comes with a durable steel frame which sees a high density memory foam base dropped onto it. This is then covered in a glorious wipe-clean PU surface to create a firm but comfortable seat that is good for many an hour of gaming.
As you would expect, the seat is fully height adjustable thanks to an easy to use lever on the underside of the seat, delivering a multitude of heights to suit your body type. My 6ft 2in 85kg frame fits in nicely and there is just enough hug from the sides of the seat to allow for comfort. That said, if I was any larger then things may well be a bit different and a little more room either side of the hips would be required.
The 4D armrests that pretty much come as standard now on many decent gaming chairs are present, and these can be raised, lowered, swivelled, rotated and placed in all manner of directions and positions. They are fairly soft too and even after sitting in the chair for a few hours at a time I have yet to find any indents where the arms are resting. I’m not sure why these armrests never seem to come covered in luxurious padding though. That would be an optimum setup in anyone’s eyes.
The Flash also allows for reclining and a swift pull of the lever on the right side of the base will see you being able to position the back rest at any adjustment between 85-155 degree angles. Why anyone would seriously consider dropping the back as far as it goes, unless you’re planning on sleeping in it, is beyond me, but the range in movement is great and it’s a cinch to set things how you like. There is also a degree of tilt to the seat base and whilst this has been troublesome to operate once you find your desired tilt it sits in place very nicely indeed.
And all that’s left to talk about after that is the five-pronged aluminium base and the casters that it sits on. But honestly, what is there to mention about those? Lovely black coated alu and large castered wheels are pretty much the norm nowadays. They work well on both carpet and hard flooring, with the slightly over-sized nature of the wheels allowing for plenty of movement.
Sat here today, does the Flash take pride of place in my gaming sessions? Well, no, but that’s because it is going up against a considerably more expensive product in the SecretLab Titan Stealth chair – something which is a bit more spongy and just a tad more comfortable in the long term gaming stakes. But that also comes in at a different price point and shouldn’t be seen as a direct comparison. It’s pretty much like comparing a Ford to a Jaguar – they both do the same thing very well, but one is just a little more luxurious.
I have to point out that Ewin have created a brilliant product in the Flash gaming chair. However, other than for styling purposes, I can’t work out any reasoning for placing the huge lumbar support cushion anywhere near the thing. With it attached, it makes the seat near on unusable and it took just a matter of minutes before I had to feed the straps through the racing loops and throw it to one side. With that removed, comfort is hugely increased and allows for any gamer to spend a good few hours pounding away with their favourite games, making it a more than attractive option for anyone wishing to get in on the gaming chair bandwagon.
It’s also fairly tricky to put together out of the box. The instruction booklet, although clear, features a set of images that are initially tricky to follow, and actually connecting the seat back to the base with the included screws isn’t as easy as it should be. You’ll most definitely require a second pair of hands in order to put this chair together – if only because holding the back rest and hunting down screw holes alone is no easy task. Other than that though, it all goes together with ease.
But at the end of the day, the Ewin Flash does exactly what Ewin have set out to do – bringing a quality gaming chair at an affordable price. It looks great, it’s comfortable to sit in, and it should help enhance any long gaming sessions. The lumbar pillow issue aside, and for the price it comes at, you should be sticking this on your shortlist right now.
If you want to pick up the Ewin Flash Gaming chair (or any of their chairs for that matter), and wish to save a little money, then head over to Ewin right now and use the code ‘XboxHub’ to nab 15% off the price.
In this review we are going to take a look at something a little different, that is still definitely an essential item for those who spend any time working or playing in front of a screen – a comfortable chair. We received the red and black version of the Flash Series ergonomic office chair with pillows from EwinRacing.com, which also has a European presence with the domain EwinRacing.eu.
The Flash Series chair is shown in the promotional image above where we see that while it has the typical profile of an ergonomic chair, it is rather sporty looking. What we can not see is that this particular model is made to support up to 330 pounds and will adjust to accomodate users well over six feet tall. Considering this is considered the “Normal” version of the Flash Series chair, and that there is an “XL” offering, EwinRacing clearly has not forgotten about the larger people in the world when developing their products. Before taking a look at the sample provided for review, let’s take a look at some published data on it, as taken from the official product page on the Ewinracing website.
» Chair Type: Gaming/Office Chair
» Foam Type:High Density Intergrated Foaming
» Foam Density: 60kg/m3
» Frame Color: Black
» Frame Construction: Metal
» Adjustable Armrests: 4D
» Mechanism Type: Multi-functional Tilt
» Tilt Lock: Yes
» Tilt Angle Lock: Yes
» Gas Lift Class: 4
» Chair/Seat Back Style: High-back
» Adjustable Back Angle: 85-155 Degree
» Base Type: 5-star Wide Aluminum Base
» Caster Size & Material: 3″ Caster/PU
» Supports up to 150kg / 330lbs.
The chair was delivered to my front door in a fairly large box. Overall it appeared to survive the cheap unscathed, which is impressive considering the size and that it weighed in at close to seventy pounds!
Packaging and Accessories:
Opening the box we find that all of the components are well padded, and in case you had not figured out yet – some assembly is required!
The image above shows that the five star base is placed on top, with plenty of bubble wrap and foam sheeting separating it from the body of the chair underneath. The below left image shows the chair back (with armrests pre-installed) is the next item to be found as we dig our way down, and the below right image shows that below that is the chair base and a cardboard box full of smaller items.
Next we see all of the items out of the larger box, almost ready for assembly. First we have to see what is inside that smaller cardboard box.
The box of accessories includes pictorial assembly instructions, hinge covers for where the back meets the base, all the necessary bolts (plus Allen wrenches to tighten them), five casters, the gas cylinder, the bracket where the gas cylinder meets the base – and so you feel like you’re working on a Bentley – you get a pair of knit gloves!
In this section we will cover the assembly of the chair, but first I want to comment on the quality of the seating surfaces. The base and back are very heavy duty and the first impression given is that they are very well made. The PU leather looks great, the stitching is very well done, and all the foam padding feels great and is very thick. The first step to assembling the EwinRacing Flash Series chair is to bolt the base to the back, which requires the use of the four included Allen head bolts. The two images below show this step, and how it leaves the chair looking a bit unfinished.
This unfinished look is only temporary, as there are plastic covers to screw on over the hinges, as shown in the images below. To be honest, these images show this cover on wrong, as the upper piece of plastic should be on the outside of the lower piece, and not tucked in as shown. This step was a little confusing, as the pieces provided didn’t match the pieces shown in the instructions, plus the lower piece of plastic seemed to stick out too far to do it the right way. Never-the-less, I corrected the installation on this step, and both sides were covered, so as to conceal the hinge and assembly hardware. From a distance it looks fine, and the plastic covers function just fine, but in my opinion these pieces don’t meet the same high quality standard the bulk of the chair’s components seem to have. The plastic covers are somewhat flimsy, have a cheap plastic finish, and didn’t fit as cleanly as I would have expected. Not a big deal, but considering how well done the seating surfaces and other areas were executed, I think just a bit more effort on these pieces would have paid off with an even better overall appearance.
The next step is to bolt the bracket to the underside of the seat, so that the gas cylinder can be connected and so that you can raise / lower the chair while in use. The four Allen bolts required are already attached to the bottom of the chair, so you remove those, put the bracket in place with the “Front” label facing the front of the chair, and then tighten everything back up.
The casters are all then pressed into their holes on the five star base, and the gas cylinder is pressed into the center hole – no tools required.
The last step is to press the five star base assembly in to the bottom of the chair. It all goes together very snugly, but having a seat on your new chair will help force all of the press fit components together completely.
The full assembled chair looks sharp and very sporty. I think that the Ewin logo embroidered onto three locations on the front of the chair is a bit much, and that the chair would look much nicer if at least two if the three logos were eliminated. The neck and lumbar pillows are the location of two of the chair’s logos and they both come pre-installed, but are merely attached with belts and clips, so they can be removed. Additionally, this belt system allows the pillows to be repositioned while in use, and the tension on the belts helps keep them in place, exactly where you would like them.
The chair is very comfortable – I have spent hours straight in this chair and have no complaints about how it feels or how adjustable it is. You can raise/lower the total height of the chair with the gas cylinder’s lever, the seat can recline it small increments to an angle that is so laid back you’ll think you might tip over (but I didn’t), the pillows are adjustable, and even the armrests are “4D adjustable” That means they can move up/down, left/right, forward/back, and they can be rotated clockwise/counterclockwise.
The first three adjustments for the armrests are all locked and can only be actuated by depressing a button first. But, the rotation is not locked out and I find that they rotate by accident quite often. For example, using the armrests to get up may make them rotate, and pushing the chair out of the way using the armrest as a handle may make them rotate. The armrests are also not upholstered and have a fairly thin rubbery surface for you to rest on. It is not uncomfortable, but to me the quality does not match the body of the chair. Like the hinge covers, I feel the armrests are executed to a lower standard than the bulk of the chair, and really could be so much nicer.
While I have done well to keep my likeness out of my own reviews for the past 15+ years, I suppose some selfies are useful for reviewing a chair. The main point is that I have 6’2″ tall and about 225 pounds, and while I am not the biggest guy you will meet, there are plenty of places that I just don’t physically fit into – at least not comfortably. I am very comfortable in the EwinRacing Flash Series chair, and it definitely has plenty of room for even larger (taller and wider) users. I can easily find nice positions for the two pillows, and I do like that the armrests can be adjusted in so many planes. As you see me posing below as if I was gaming, know that I have dialed in the chair just to my liking and that I am definitely comfortable.
The next two shots are intended to show that if you needed the chair to go higher, it definitely can. I can honestly say it is rare that my feet don’t touch the ground, unless I am sitting on a bar stool – but here my feet are a good two to three inches off the ground with the chair at full height! So, all the people over 6’6″, I’d say the Flash Series chair may be a good choice for you!
Eventually, my sidekick got his turn in the chair, and I may not get it back now. At 4 feet and change and just over 50 pounds, he isn’t maxing it out in any way, but he sures does like sitting it all the same! Looking good buddy!
I have never reviewed a chair before, but I have sat in plenty of them, so I would say I am fairly qualified to share my opinion. The EwinRacing Flash Series chair is definitely very comfortable, and overall has a very high build quality. There is plenty of adjustability to it, and the inclusion of both a lumbar and a neck pillow are welcome touches. I also appreciate that it can accommodate such a range of user heights / weights, as I am quite often left with chairs maxed out and still wishing for a little more room! Not with this chair, as it can go so high that my feet are left dangling.
While the quality is high in general, I feel that some components (like the armrests) don’t achieve the same high standard. They are comfortable enough and very functional, but not quite as polished as the seating surfaces and the five star base. My personal opinion is that the Ewin branding on the chair is a bit overdone, as you see their logo embroidered very prominently in three locations on the front of the chair!
The Flash Series ergonomic office chair with pillows can be purchased directly from EwinRacing.com or EwinRacing.eu, and in US Dollars the price is a rather lofty $379 (US)! That is quite a price tag for an office chair, but you do not have to pay that much since they currently have a promotion where the code XMAS will take off 25%, bringing the total down to $284 (US). I assume the code XMAS will expire sometime soon after the holidays, but when that happens you should still be able to use code BIGBRUIN, which will take 15% off. Considering that the shipping box weighed in at almost seventy pounds, it is very appealing that they also offer free shipping! $284 is still more than I have paid for any of my previous office chairs, but the Flash Series chair definitely has more to offer and is much more comfortable.
In the end, the EwinRacing Flash Series ergonomic office chair with pillows earns the Bigbruin.com “Recommended” award.
» Overall very high build quality
» Very comfortable
» Highly adjustable to make sure you can make it suit you
» At 6’2″ and 225lbs, I am nowhere near maxing out the height and weight capabilities of this chair
» Some components don’t quite match the overall high quality
» Ewin branding is overdone
It has been said in the past that I’m a little tight with money. Hardware, peripherals, the 2DS – if there was a cheap version of something, it was good enough for me. My last chair was from Costco, and cost about £150. I forget what brand it was, or if it even had a brand. As I say, I needed a chair, and it was good enough.
When E-Win got in touch about their gaming chair, I’ll admit my curiosity was piqued. There are no shortage of gaming chairs, but being extremely frugal I’ve of course never tried one of those: I was happy to try E-Win as my first one. They sent over one from the Flash range, and given my measurements they decided the Normal size would be best. 183cm and 91 kg, in case you wondered.
Being a chair, it arrived in an absolutely huge box. I could have comfortable shipped two of my kids off in it – the non-tween ones. It was packaged neatly, and there was just enough padding to keep it in one piece.
You get gloves, the back, the seat, feet, middle pole and five wheels, as well as three screws and two end caps. Oh, and two hex keys, because two of the screws are slightly smaller than literally every other screw… Yes, I said gloves, they’re to stop you getting your new chair sticky while you assemble it. And probably in case a part nips your skin…
Assembly is pretty easy, and since most of the screws are already in place, you just have to unfasten them and put things in their correct position. It took me about half an hour with following the clear instructions. I had a little trouble with getting the angle right with one of the screws, which ate into my time.
Once constructed, the Flash is very stable. I mean really – I pulled the handle and leaned back in one smooth motion, and my wife burst out laughing because she thought I was about to topple over backwards. Yeah, and you judged me for talking about putting my kids in a box, didn’t you? Anyway, whilst in full recline I felt totally safe. Ironically, if you lean forwards on the chair and sit on the edge of the seat, it does tip forwards, so don’t pick things up off of the floor in front of you.
However, due to the range of movement in the arms and all of the buttons attached to them, they do feel pretty wobbly. I suppose if they were too stiff they would be more difficult to move, but it doesn’t feel great.
What surprised me most was how high the Flash is. On it’s lowest setting, it’s only just below what my old chair was on the highest. At it’s highest, my toes don’t even touch the floor, and I pretty much have to tiptoe to get up onto it. Having completed a Health & Safety course years ago, I remember that your eye line should be with the top of your monitor. Well, thanks to this chair’s lowest setting, my eyes are there.
I think the only thing I haven’t mentioned yet are the two cushions which came with the Flash. There’s one near the top for your head, and a larger, firmer one for your back. Unfortunately, because it’s adjustable, I don’t really know where to put it. Where is your “lumbar”, anyway? It has aided my posture, though, so I’m not too upset.
For the week that I’ve had it, E-Win’s Flash has been firm and comfortable, no matter if I’m sitting, lounging or lying in it. The fabric covering it is like a soft faux leather, which is better than real faux leather (is that a thing?) in that I don’t have to peel my skin off of it when wearing shorts and sat with my leg beneath me.
I was prepared to complain loudly about anything I found wrong with this chair, and I honestly have. It spins smoothly, the wheels are nice and chunky to allow it to glide across the carpet, and it’s comfortable when sat in for extended periods of time. I really like the Flash E-Win Racing gaming chair, and feel good in recommending it.
E-Win Flash Normal Series FLC Ergonomic Office Gaming Chair Review
I really like the E-Win Flash, and feel good in recommending it.
It seems that the gaming chair market is growing more crowded by the day, with a number of suppliers eager to offer comfortable furniture that meets our specific needs. However, separating the quality goods from the fly-by-night trash isn’t always easy, particularly when you’re not given much information to go on.
Which is why the approach by EWin Racing is so refreshing. A relative newcomer to the gaming chair scene, the firm started out by making car seats in 2002, before becoming an OEM office chair manufacturer in 2012. It was only logical to combine the two into ergonomic racing chairs for the enthusiast gamer, with a focus on offering high quality at exceptional value. After their first outing at Gamescom 2016, EWin Racing has been retailing directly to gamers in both the US and Europe, with an openness and transparency in sharing how the chairs are made. It’s an approach that’s been quietly winning both plaudits and fans alike.
We’d urge you to digest the review first but, if you like what you see, EWin Racing have also offered an exclusive deal for MMORPG.com readers. Simply enter discount code ‘mmorpg’ to score 15% off this chair, or any of the others in their range. That’s in addition to free shipping to US and EU.
In this review, we’ve focused on EWin Racing’s Flash Series, featuring higher-end features like an aluminum five-star foot and 4-directional armrests, which I’ll dig into shortly. Our sample was from the Normal-size range, but the firm also offers an XL-sized version with the same feature set and specification. For a closer look at the chair in action and the unboxing experience, take a peek at our companion video review below.
Focusing on the upholstery first, both the backrest and seat are built on a metal frame made from 16mm diameter steel tubing that’s 1.5mm thick and coated to prevent rust. Cushioning is made from cold molded (not cut) memory foam, with the seat built up from three individual pieces, and the backrest from a single molded form. The foam is then supported by wide elastic webbing to ensure there’s no blocks or planks that get in the way of comfort. Wrapping it all up is 1.2mm thick grain-embossed PU leather, with double-stitching used throughout all key seams.
The seat also has a thick steel bar running across the middle to provide strength, and also acts as a mounting point for the baseplate and cylinder. Reassuringly, that gas lift cylinder is a meaty one, measuring 12cm long with a class 4 rating, and capable of supporting 150kg or 330lbs. For weight distribution, the Flash Series chair also comes with an aluminium 5-point star foot and 3” wheels.
In terms of adjustability, the EWin Racing Flash Series includes a recline lever with a tilt of 85 to 155 degrees, and 4-directional armrests that can be moved up/down, in/out, forward/back and rotated. The under-seat lever controls chair height, but also acts as a lock for the built-in tilt, with a tension knob also built into the baseplate to adjust rock resistance. Finally, the included lumbar support and neck brace cushions can be unclipped and moved or removed as desired.
You can watch our unboxing experience in the companion review video above, but it’s safe to say that the EWin Racing gaming chair is well packed and protected from potential damage in transit. Even so, unpacking the parts yielded a few pleasant surprises alongside the usual suspects we’d expect.
First up, a pair of white assembly gloves were included to protect hands from any cuts or scratches during assembly. It’s something high-end case manufacturers should take note of, especially considering the number of times that an I/O shield or PCI slot has demanded a blood-sacrifice mid-build. The four-page instruction guide is in full colour, with clear steps to follow in plain english.
Crucially, however, this chair is one that can comfortably be built solo in about half an hour or so. Some of the assembly is already done prior to delivery, with only a handful of steps needed to finish the job. All the tools needed are also included, with two Allen keys to fit all the hex bolts used. The trickiest part is locating the seat onto the gas cylinder, but that’s the hardest step. Once complete, the chair had no shakes, rattles, clicks or other problems that would indicate a build issue.
The cold-molded memory foam and elastic webbing ensure that this is a comfortable, enjoyable gaming chair, while avoiding that feeling of numbness or soreness that comes from sitting on a rigid surface for hours on end. Having a three-piece seat also meant that I didn’t feel insecure, as if I’d roll off the chair or adopt bad posture part-way through gaming. Those PU armrests also have a spongy, rubbery feel, providing give without bruising elbows or forearms.
For me personally, I was also pleased that the included cushions could be unclipped and moved around if needed. Lumbar support tends to be welcome, but the neck brace is typically too low for my taller frame. Thanks to the particular back design, I could unclip the cushion and pull it around the top of the backrest, raising it a few inches and getting it in the perfect spot for my neck. The high number of adjustment options meant that, once it was set up, it’s a chair that I didn’t want to climb out of, and felt absolutely fine for extended gaming sessions.
My only gripes were minor areas of personal preference, and not a big deal at all. I’d like to have had some quilted stitching on the seat of the chair to encourage air circulation and reduce the build-up of sweat, due to the man-made PU leather used. I’d also like the foot to have been slightly larger or slightly further forward, as my centre of gravity felt a little off when trying to rock, but this is probably related to my height as much as anything.
There’s a lot that I like about the Flash Series EWin Racing gaming chair. The chosen components are high quality, and the firm is up-front and transparent about how the chairs are made. Assembly is easy to perform solo, and the white protective gloves are an incredibly welcome touch. It ticks all of my comfort needs, with only a few minor gripes that come down to personal preference.
I think the only additional steps that EWin Racing could offer are in the form of aftercare touches. Gaming chairs are a significant investment, and it would be great if the firm offered the option to buy replacement parts direct from them. Likewise, it would be nice to see aftercare instructions included in the box, although these are available on their website FAQs.
The Flash Series EWin Racing gaming chair retails for approximately $380, €350 or £300 direct from their US or European web sites, and come with free shipping (US and EU only) and a two year warranty. At that mid-tier price point, the chair represents great value for money compared to other models on the market.
To sweeten things even further, EWin Racing have come up with an additional offer especially for us. Simply enter ‘mmorpg’ at the checkout and get 15% off the Flash Series chair, or any of the others in their range. That moves it from being great value to a very keen price indeed.
Ultimately, however, EWin Racing have certainly surprised us with their commitment to high quality and good value, and it clearly shows in the Flash Series chair. As the firm moves out of the OEM shadows and reaches out to gamers directly, it’s going to be interesting to watch how EWin Racing shakes up the market.
Do you ever fancy one those gaming chairs that you see your favorite Twitch streamer sitting in? A gaming chair is a well worth investment not only for PC and console gamers, but for those who spend their day on the computer. A gaming chair provides comfortable support for those long hours of sitting and hardcore gaming.
And if you have not guessed it already by the title, today we will be reviewing a gaming chair from EwinRacing, specifically their Hero Series Gaming Chair.
We would like to give a special thanks to them for providing us with their Hero Series Gaming Chair to review.
Let’s jump right in by taking a look at specs of this chair.
Style Name: Hero Series Chair Type: Gaming/Office Chair Foam Type: High Density Integrated Foaming Foam Density: 55kg/m3 Frame Construction: Metal Adjustable Armrests: 4D Mechanism Type: Multi-functional Tilt Gas Lift Class: 4 Adjustable Back Angle: 85-155 Degree Adjustable Lumbar Cushion: Yes Adjustable Headrest: Yes Base Type: 5-star Wide Aluminum Base Caster Size & Material: 2″ Caster/PU
Assembling the chair is easy and should only take you about 20 minutes to put it together. This was my first time putting together a gaming chair and I did not find it difficult. The instructions are easy to read and follow along, so you should not have a hard time. The chair provided comes in two color variations: blue and red. The chair is made of a durable steel frame with high density integrated memory foam. The Hero Series comes with a lumbar cushion pillow and a head rest pillow. The chair is designed to mold with your body, so that provides comfort for long periods of sitting. The chair has 4D adjustable armrests. You can rotate them or set their angle, move them further apart or closer together, move them forward or backwards, and adjust their height. The chair is adjustable and also can be tilted back to 155 degrees for relaxing.
I have had a full week of using the chair and can say I really love it. I spend a lot of my time on the computer due to work. I need a chair that provides comfortable support and the Hero Series Gaming Chair provides that. I could hardly sit for 1 hour in my old chair without my back hurting. The Hero Series Gaming Chair has a price of $359. The price is around the average price of other gaming chairs on the market. One thing I do have to say is, I wish the armrests had a little more padding and were not so wobbly. All in all, I would highly recommend getting yourself one of these gaming chairs.
Armrests aren’t that padded
Armrests are a bit wobbly
Wish it came in more than two colors (Not really a con, but something worth noting)